Last week there was an ex-parte hearing on lifting the hold on the proceedings. There is still no decision posted on the court's website. But it does appear that it is not going to be 2 million but it will pick back up once the hold is lifted.
John Davis
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San Diego: Osbaldo Padron v Watchtower
by wifibandit inhttp://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2016/apr/24/ticker-tough-build-jehovahs-witness-sex-abuse-case.
tough to build jehovah's witness sex-abuse case.
11. without documents, says plaintiff, he can’t get justice.
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Watchtower and Canada Revenue Agency
by lastmanstanding inchanges coming to canada watchtower where congregations are involved.. i strongly suspect it has to do with the lawsuits and watchtower hiding the loot.. letters coming... wheres wifi bandit??
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John Davis
Most likely the reason why 1. it is only in Ontario is because the Cutting Unnecessary Red Tape Act, 2017(Bill 154) had passed and was approved. This bill is only affecting Ontario and it speaks of changes to non-profit organizations structures and how certain paperwork can be filed. http://www.ontla.on.ca/web/bills/bills_detail.do?locale=en&Intranet=&BillID=5000
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The other reason why it may be selected congregations is not all congregations may have to have a corporation associated with it, at least that is in the US. Only congregations that hold the real property title have to have an associated corporation in order to own the property. If there is 3 congregations in the kingdom hall only one congregation needs a corporation for the purpose of holding the title of the land and building.
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Congregation dwindles
by wannaexit ini think we are going to be seeing lots more of this stuff.
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http://www.capjournal.com/news/pierre-jehovah-s-witnesses-put-up-smaller-kingdom-hall-to/article_e05d9c36-d8b9-11e7-acb3-9f63fb65c896.html.
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John Davis
There is all of 19000 people in the metro area according to the 2000 census. So about 50 people in a congregation makes sense for that small of a population.
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Where is the Annual Meeting 2017?
by pomo6780 inhmm, it's taken the big gb a long while to approve the annual meeting to be uploaded to their beloved tv.jw.org site.
well.... from what i've read, it looks like they'll probably have to cut out a lot of embarrassing bits.
wonder how lett's "immorality ... i mean immortality" would look on an official society video?
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John Davis
It could also be that it is a 3 hour program that needs to be translated into a number of languages. They could just be waiting for more languages to be ready to post it in a number of languages at once.
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Jehovah`s Witnesses / Governing Body Claim To Abhor Child Sexual Abuse Within Their Congregations /Members who are victims.?
by smiddy3 inso my question to them is why have they continually failed to report incidents of child sexual abuse of child members in their congregations to the appropriate authorities ,either police or child protection agency`s, when they are holding judicial committees into these allegations in their congregations when they occur or even some time after ?.
they have consistently failed to do so.. and this failure to do so is not confined to one country ,it is a pattern that is repeated worldwide ,in one country after another country .
(worldwide where they operate in ).
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John Davis
smiddy3 the only thing the ARC can do is submit a report. They are not a legislative body, they cannot change laws can only make recommendations that can be followed or ignored by the federal government or the local governments.
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why won't legal department simply release all the secret pedophile files?
by poopie inwhat do you think there hiding?.
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John Davis
Even look at the ARC the ARC recognized that people have a privacy right so they reported on matters of the cases but removed names and identifying features. Same thing in the US in the San Diego cases the court recognizes that there are legitimate privacy concerns not just for the victims but even the accused that is why there are protective orders in place.
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why won't legal department simply release all the secret pedophile files?
by poopie inwhat do you think there hiding?.
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John Davis
I am not suggesting that you are giving an excuse at all. I am agreeing with you that it is a complex matter and it isn't as simple as people think it is.
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why won't legal department simply release all the secret pedophile files?
by poopie inwhat do you think there hiding?.
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John Davis
Morpheus: You are absolutely correct many of those individuals are not convicted of any crime. We even saw in Australia where the ARC sent reports to local authorities for investigation and prosecution, one was found to have been reported to the authorities decades ago but no charges were ever filed and another was acquited of the charges. In fact, if you go around telling people that someone is a paedophile and they have been acquitted of those charges you have just opened yourself up for a civil action.
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WTBTS and the CCJW ?
by Crazyguy inapparently they made this new corporation called the christian congregation of jehovah’s witnesses in the year 2001. this is the religious side of the cult and wtbts is the printing side and probably the money side.
since the gb think they are of the ccjw and have even stated their non affiliation with the wt is their a way that jws can use this to their advantage, maybe during a jc etc.?
i for example was baptized before 2000 so with the new corporation formed and the gb going to that side what could be argued during a jc?
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John Davis
I got the information during the oral arguments of the Padron case. Also a federal court case in Louisiana where they did indicate that CCJW is a US Corporation that handles the legal affairs of the US Service Department.
It is also when at conventions or assemblies when they make the announcement that because funds for these events are handled by the local branch office please make checks payable to Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses.
In Britain, there is no corporation that is called Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses. There are two main corporations. Watchtower of Britain and the International Bible Students Association.
IBSA mission is stated as: Promoting the Christian religion by helping congregations of Jehovah's Witnesses & others with their spiritual & material welfare. We provide facilities for printing Bible literature & housing for members of our order of special full-time servants. We distribute religious literature freely to all who will read it. Conventions for Christian education are arranged & the public are invited.
Watchtower of Britian mission is stated as: 1. PRINTING AND DISTRIBUTING BIBLES AND BIBLE-BASED LITERATURE IN SEVERAL LANGUAGES. 2. FUNDING THE CONSTRUCTION OF PLACES OF WORSHIP IN VARIOUS COUNTRIES. 3. SUPPORTING CONGREGATIONS AND ASSOCIATIONS OF JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES AND OTHERS IN CONNECTION WITH THEIR SPIRITUAL AND MATERIAL WELFARE IN THE UNITED KINGDOM AND ABROAD, BY MAKING DONATIONS AND ADVANCING THE CHRISTIAN MISSIONARY WORK.
So my mistake it seems like the service department in Britain would actually probably fall under the corporation of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of Britain.
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WTBTS and the CCJW ?
by Crazyguy inapparently they made this new corporation called the christian congregation of jehovah’s witnesses in the year 2001. this is the religious side of the cult and wtbts is the printing side and probably the money side.
since the gb think they are of the ccjw and have even stated their non affiliation with the wt is their a way that jws can use this to their advantage, maybe during a jc etc.?
i for example was baptized before 2000 so with the new corporation formed and the gb going to that side what could be argued during a jc?
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John Davis
CCJW is used only in the US. CCJW is used by the US Branch service department as their corporate portion. In other countries, it would be a different corporation, such as in Britain it is the International Bible Student's Association.
In the US there are 8 main corporations used by the US Branch Committee or Watchtower for different functions. They are Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania, New York, New Jersey and Florida, Religious Order of Special Full Time Servants of Jehovah's Witnesses, Kingdom Support Services, CCJW. Then there is one for the cemetery at Walhkill and one for the LDC program in the US.
Corporations are set up because in order for an organization to get a bank account, own real property or do pretty much anything else a corporation has to be set up. It is solely a legal entity.
And btw no governing body member is an officer, agent or employee of any corporation.